Crawler 4,122
Browse
Aa
Look
Theme
Text size

Saved in this browser only.

Talk about book 6 on Discord

Motif · from book 1

The gods

'There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege.' A gauntlet that can transfigure a worshipper of the war god Grull into the god himself; a deity-sponsorship program that opens on the fourth floor; a tree goddess whose banished elves think Donut is the antichrist. What the in-game gods really are is a subject Mordecai keeps putting off; the Cookbook says the big ones are sponsored by rich off-worlders who pay to play a game called the Celestial Ascendency, and Tin writes: 'The aliens are wearing the gods like clothes.'

Every god the books have named, their family and enemies, and the mythology: the pantheon.

First appears: Book 1 · Seen for what it is: Book 2

Series arc

In hindsight, after book 2

Read after book 2, the gauntlet's warning and Mordecai's solemn aside in book 1 are the first two mentions of a mechanic the series keeps deferring. Book 1 has the line ('There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege.') and a throwaway from Zev about deity sponsorship; book 2 has Mordecai putting the subject off twice, a Divine Guardian on the twelfth floor, an elf cult's Oak Mother, and Odette's parting warning that King Rust has bought a god — probably Grull — to get at Carl, and that Mordecai's experience of the subject is 'unfortunately.' The Trace below has the lines. What the in-game gods are is still unexplained; who pays for them is not.

As of book 6. 'There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege' — a theology by book 5, and in book 6 a workplace. Retainers, locked deities and gods woken by crawlers for the game above; a Thorn Room and a god who punishes in person; a goddess appearing as herself under an heiress's sponsorship and bargaining in a channel the system cannot read; gods 'acting in ways they should not'; a goddess beheaded by her own totem with a bolt Katia lent, and a memorial crystal generated for her. The pantheon page has the family, the orishas and the lore.

Open threads

Status is open or resolved; the chapter after it is the last one that moved the thread.

Thread Opened Status
'There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege' B1 ch. 25 open · B6 ch. 69 — A goddess killed on a floor where she is invulnerable — by her own totem, with a bolt in her eye and a self-destruct at her neck.
King Rust's deity sponsorship, and the Grull gauntlet B2 ch. 26 open · B5 ch. 76 — Laundry Day was meant for Grull; spent on Diwata instead.
Mordecai's 'unfortunate' experience with gods B2 ch. 26 open · B6 ch. 19 — Of Huanxin Jinx he says only 'the last time someone didn't do what she wanted, my brother died'; Odette supplies Pieter, Uzzi and the trust in ch. 37. The gods themselves he now explains freely: retainers, locked deities, Demon Eviction.
The Bolt of Ophiotaurus B3 ch. 29 open · B6 ch. 69 — Katia lends the Bolt to Paz; he puts it into Ysalte's eye before his blast takes her head off, and it comes back reusable (ch. 72).
The Maestro is alive, and drives Grull B3 ch. 33 open · B5 ch. 42 — Franchised to a subsidiary of a subsidiary; 'I am not the Maestro,' says Circe Took.
Emberus's two quests: who killed Geyrun, and kill Hellik B4 ch. 32 open · B6 ch. 69 — Amayon was witness to the deal that killed Geyrun and names his price for the story: three brothers. Pater Coal in ch. 18 sends Carl toward Katia's crossbow and Donut's bracelet; the crystal is still on Osvaldo's neck.
A memorial crystal for Apito, who is not dead B5 ch. 77 open · B6 ch. 18 — Pater Coal: crystals form only when a god dies, yet Apito lives; Katia's crossbow and Donut's oak bracelet are paths, and neither opens without the crystal Osvaldo wears.
Amayon witnessed the deal that killed Geyrun B6 ch. 69 open — 'If he assists in helping me kill my three brothers, I will tell him.' The message was delivered by being spoken. Nekhebit's priestess is the other lead; Katia's crossbow and Donut's oak bracelet are paths that need the crystal.
Shunned by Emberus: penitence, doubled tithes, a smite on the third B5 ch. 60 resolved · B6 ch. 16 — Lifted: Emberus's esteem is what keeps Carl alive under Ogun in the Thorn Room, and by ch. 47 he is a Devotee tithing ten per cent.

All threads: Open threads.

Through book 1

Three sidelong mentions: the Grull gauntlet's warning and 'There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege' (B1 ch. 25); Eris, Goddess of Chaos, named on a Krakaren clone's card (B1 ch. 34); Zev's 'if they spring for a deity sponsorship' (B1 ch. 44). Nothing that reads as a thread yet.

Through book 3

Mana Genita on a tiara and 'Most of them never leave the 12th floor' (B3 ch. 2); the gauntlet's counter is cumulative and starts a ten-second summoning of Grull that Carl beats by killing the vessel (B3 ch. 11); a bolt for a god's eye (B3 ch. 29); the Cookbook's three summonings and Tin's Soul Armor theory (B3 ch. 32); Mordecai's arithmetic and his 'hardest way possible' (B3 ch. 32); Grull himself, sponsored by the Maestro, ejected by a second vessel (B3 ch. 33). The conversation Carl was supposed to have with Mordecai is still deferred.

Through book 4

The feral gods, banished before the pantheon and loosed by a closing gate (B4 ch. 15); a minor deity split in two (B4 ch. 24); a Celestial Grenade and Algos (B4 ch. 14); Sinjin's and Azin's notes on worship (B4 ch. 30); Emberus, blind, summoned, and taken by Carl as his god, with two quests (B4 ch. 31, B4 ch. 32); gods that fight or mate when they meet; a turkey; Ysalte blocked (B4 ch. 33).

Through book 5

The book's theology: Diwata, a forest god who gives birth to ordinary life and so disgusts the pantheon (B5 ch. 62); Apito's first masquerade, Yarilo banished, Taranis's rage (B5 ch. 65); memorial crystals of fallen gods (B5 ch. 69); a loophole that keeps a god on a floor while her spell runs (B5 ch. 70); soul armour and the driver beneath it, stripped by a cat's spell (B5 ch. 76); a memorial crystal for a goddess nobody thinks is dead (B5 ch. 77). Carl is Shunned by his own god for a worshipper used as a shield (B5 ch. 60) and marked for death by another (B5 ch. 61).

Through book 6

A Thorn Room and a god who punishes in person (B6 ch. 15, B6 ch. 16); retainers and locked deities (B6 ch. 17); gods woken by crawlers for the game above (B6 ch. 25); 'acting in ways they should not' (B6 ch. 54); a goddess beheaded by her own totem (B6 ch. 69).

Trace

The thread line by line, in reading order: its presence before anyone could see it, and the lines that made it legible. Each line is verbatim from the cited book.

Where The line Note
Book 1, Ch. 25 "Warning: if you use this weapon to strike adherents of the war god Grull, you have a 1.5% chance to transfigure your target into the deity himself. […] You don't want to do that." The gauntlet's card. A god that can be summoned by accident, in an item Carl is still wearing at the end of book 2.
Book 1, Ch. 25 "There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege." Mordecai, suddenly solemn, answering Carl's 'Does that really make a difference?' Read after book 2: a description of deity sponsorship before anyone names it.
Book 1, Ch. 44 "Not until the sixth floor. Or if they spring for a deity sponsorship this season." Zev, listing what a hostile government can do to Carl. The mechanism, named in passing.
Book 2, Ch. 3 "That's a whole different thing, and those don't appear until the fourth floor. I'll explain that later." Mordecai's first deferral, when Carl asks about gods on the walk into the Over City.
Book 2, Ch. 17 "Gods and goddesses. In-game deities. We'll get to what they really are later." The second deferral, mid-lecture on Apito. 'What they really are' is the phrase to hold on to.
Book 2, Ch. 26 "And King Rust has apparently just spent a lot of money on a deity sponsorship." Odette's warning. The privilege has been paid for, by the man Carl called a pussy on live television.
Book 2, Ch. 26 "He has a lot of experience in the subject, unfortunately." Odette on Mordecai and gods. The thread joins Mordecai's own.
Book 3, Ch. 2 There’s thousands of them. Gods, I mean. Only a few are dungeon regulars. Most of them never leave the 12th floor. Mordecai on Mana Genita's tiara, before deferring the conversation again.
Book 3, Ch. 11 The description never said it was a cumulative chance. The gauntlet's counter reaches ten percent; a ten-second countdown to Grull, beaten by killing the vessel.
Book 3, Ch. 32 Once he’s summoned and then unsummoned, you can bring him back right away. There’s no cooldown. Mordecai's rules of summoning, on the last day.
Book 3, Ch. 32 The gods and goddesses are Soul Armor. Tin's note in the Cookbook: what a god is, and why a spell could strip the alien out.
Book 4, Ch. 14 It’s not Grull. She worships another god called Algos. Chris from inside: Maggie's grenade would summon the god of pain; both her sponsors are Skull Empire princes.
Book 4, Ch. 15 They are the gods from before. The immortal beasts who roamed the heavens before the pantheon banished them into the Nothing and created the world. Juice Box on the feral gods.
Book 4, Ch. 28 all gods lose their invulnerability on the 12th Mordecai, asked whether a feral god is invulnerable like a regular god.
Book 4, Ch. 31 » This is a locked god. There will be no sponsors of this deity this season. Emberus's card in the Lacuna.
Book 4, Ch. 32 » You have a received a boon from your god! Carl has a god.
Book 4, Ch. 33 The feral gods who’ve been escaping are random, and sometimes new even to us. The patch note after the bubble escapes; some secondary summonings blocked, Ysalte among them.

Where they appear

Book Chapters they are in (of the book's) Where
1 — Dungeon Crawler Carl 2/48 Ch. 25, Ch. 44 · the book's own page
2 — Carl's Doomsday Scenario 6/26 Ch. 2, Ch. 3, Ch. 7, Ch. 17, Ch. 20, Ch. 26 · the book's own page
3 — The Dungeon Anarchist's Cookbook 6/35 Ch. 11, Ch. 24, Ch. 29, Ch. 32, Ch. 33, Ch. 35 · the book's own page
4 — The Gate of the Feral Gods 14/35 1–2, 4–5, 12–14, 21, 23–24, 31–34 · the book's own page
5 — The Butcher's Masquerade 15/78 5, 34, 36, 43, 55, 62, 64–68, 73–74, 76–77 · the book's own page
6 — The Eye of the Bedlam Bride 22/74 0, 3, 5–6, 11, 16–19, 25–26, 33, 36, 38, 52, 56, 62, 64–66, 69, 72 · the book's own page

By book

The gods in book 1 — Dungeon Crawler Carl

Two mentions, both sidelong. The Enchanted War Gauntlet of the Exalted Grull warns that striking a worshipper of the war god has a 1.5% chance of transfiguring the target into the god himself, and Mordecai, suddenly solemn, adds that Grull is not a real god — 'There are no gods here. Just those who pay for the privilege' (ch. 25). Zev, listing what other governments cannot do to Carl before the sixth floor: 'Or if they spring for a deity sponsorship this season' (ch. 44).

The gods in book 2 — Carl's Doomsday Scenario

'What about gods?' — 'That's a whole different thing, and those don't appear until the fourth floor' (ch. 3). A Divine Guardian on the twelfth floor, a Country Boss (ch. 7). Mordecai defers again on 'in-game deities. We'll get to what they really are later' (ch. 17) while explaining Apito the Oak Mother; her antichrist, the Oak Fell, comes in chat (ch. 20). Odette, off air: King Rust has bought a deity sponsorship, probably Grull; be careful with the gauntlet; Mordecai has a lot of experience in the subject, unfortunately (epilogue).

The gods in book 3 — The Dungeon Anarchist's Cookbook

Mana Genita on a tiara — 'a pretty obscure one […] Most of them never leave the 12th floor' (ch. 2); the gauntlet's counter revealed as cumulative and a god summoned into Gore-Gore for ten seconds (ch. 11); Nekhebit and Apito on a crossbow's card (ch. 24); a bolt for a god's eye (ch. 29); the Cookbook's three kinds of summoning, Forkith's oath, Tin's theory that the gods are Soul Armor the aliens wear (ch. 32); Mordecai's arithmetic — vessel level plus god level in seconds, no cooldown, a second summoning steals the first, 'I learned it the hard way' (ch. 32). Then Grull himself: child of Taranis and Apito, level 250, invulnerable on this floor, sponsored by a prince, ejected by a second vessel (ch. 33). 'Yeah, I'm supposed to ask you about gods.' 'That can wait' (ch. 2).

The gods in book 4 — The Gate of the Feral Gods
What the fifth floor says a god is

A tab to worship Grull; Pawna, goddess of peace, his sister and enemy; 'the other deities tend to notice' (ch. 2). The feral gods: the ones from before the pantheon, banished into the Nothing and driven mad, who come through when a gate closes (ch. 15); Psamathe, a lesser deity, split in two, who lies about who she is (ch. 21, ch. 24); the Celestial Ascendency on the twelfth floor, 'whackadoodle business' (ch. 24); a Celestial Grenade that summons the wielder's god; Algos, god of pain; Enyo's nuns (ch. 14). Sinjin's note on worship — rules, boons, smiting — and Azin's: 'Stay the fuck away from gods' (ch. 30).

Emberus

Geyrun murdered, Emberus blinded, Orthrus lost; a blind god walking the Lacuna (ch. 28, ch. 29); summoned into a biplane's path by a grenade after Carl takes him as his god (ch. 31); two quests, a tithe, a shrine (ch. 32). Gods that fight or mate when they meet outside the twelfth floor and unsummon; a turkey god killed by Prepotente; Ysalte, the Vinegar Bitch, an extinction event Borant blocks (ch. 32, ch. 33). Samantha's mother tears a demon in two for her (ch. 34).

The gods in book 5 — The Butcher's Masquerade

The shrine takes its five per cent (ch. 3); Carl's god passes through the realm (ch. 10) and a temple to Hellik, his brother and enemy, stands at the edge of Donut's town (ch. 10). Boons are low-tier loot boxes (ch. 24); Samantha names gods in the Nothing (ch. 24) and explains what a minor goddess is goddess of (ch. 26). Carl breaks a forest goddess's shrine and becomes an Enemy of the Church (ch. 36); her dryads turn every town hostile (ch. 39, ch. 45); she is summoned by the dryads and bought by a mantis queen (ch. 55). Shunned by his own god for killing a worshipper used as a shield (ch. 60). Then the theology: Diwata's birth-power and the pantheon's disgust (ch. 62); Apito's protections, her gospel, Yarilo banished, Taranis's rage (ch. 64, ch. 65); memorial crystals from fallen gods (ch. 69); the loophole that keeps a god on a floor (ch. 70); soul armour and its driver, and a god sent home by a cat's stripping spell (ch. 76); a memorial crystal for a goddess who is not dead (ch. 77).

The gods in book 6 — The Eye of the Bedlam Bride

A Thorn Room with seven shrines and every choice a thorn (ch. 15); a god who punishes in person and spares Carl for another god's esteem (ch. 16); locked deities, retainers, temple rules, deity messages the system cannot read (ch. 17); a window that shows Taranis, a sacrament no god can overhear, a crystal for a living goddess (ch. 18); gods re-ascending by egg and obelisk for the players above (ch. 25, ch. 36); gods 'acting in ways they should not' (ch. 54); Devotee (ch. 47); a goddess beheaded by her own totem (ch. 69).